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Point of Order: The long goodbye

In the latest episode of our podcast about the Texas Legislature, Evan Smith talks to state Rep. Donna Howard and state Sen. Kel Seliger about sniping and snark on the road to sine die.

By Evan SmithMay 28, 2021, 2:30 p.m. CentralUpdated May 28, 2021, 2:30 p.m. Central

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Point of Order: The long goodbye

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May 28, 2021

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<p>In the latest episode of our podcast about the Texas Legislature, Evan Smith talks to state Rep. <a href="https://texastribune-donor-migration.newspackstaging.com/directory/donna-howard/">Donna Howard</a> and state Sen. <a href="https://texastribune-donor-migration.newspackstaging.com/directory/kel-seliger/">Kel Seliger</a>.</p>
<p>The pair discuss sniping and snark on the road to sine die, whether the 87th session was good or bad for the state, and how soon lawmakers will be back in special session.</p></p>
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Point of Order: The long goodbye

adminnewspack, The Texas Tribune
May 28, 2021

Join Evan Smith for Point of Order, a weekly podcast that takes you inside, behind and underneath the politics and issues of the Texas Legislature — the turning of gears and pulling of strings that power government in a state like no other. Subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, or RSS. More in this series

Sign up for The Brief, our daily newsletter that keeps readers up to speed on the most essential Texas news.

In the latest episode of our podcast about the Texas Legislature, Evan Smith talks to state Rep. Donna Howard and state Sen. Kel Seliger.

The pair discuss sniping and snark on the road to sine die, whether the 87th session was good or bad for the state, and how soon lawmakers will be back in special session.

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Point of Order: The Long Gooodbye

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In the latest episode of our podcast about the Texas Legislature, Evan Smith talks to state Rep. Donna Howard and state Sen. Kel Seliger.

The pair discuss sniping and snark on the road to sine die, whether the 87th session was good or bad for the state, and how soon lawmakers will be back in special session.

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